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Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C (1978 - 1985)

#121 Post by KYPREO » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:21 pm

AD RX wrote:
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I may have falsely quoted some of the FINALE details in this thread,
1) i quoted that the build plate say #/150, it clearly only shows the build number only and NOT the total production number which is still unclear, the letter provided by ROTAME states in one sentence that 25 were made, then in the second sentence it mentions 25 were made in NSW.
was the Finale a NSW MAZDA thing?
Did Mazda make 25 for each state?

2) The positioning of the plate is now up for question. I quoted that it should be on the passenger side door trim as my FINALE's plate ( I owned No2 )was on the passenger side door trom just like the one below ,I save this pic from carsales, however ROTAME owns No8 and his plate is on the dash, now I suggested that his plate may have been moved when the doortrims were retrimed(possibly) however ROTAME recalls seeing another Finale where the plate was also on the dash?!
where these plates fitted by dealers or Mazda( I would assume mazda) if dealers whre fitting them then MAYBE each dealer had their own specifi position where they fitted the plates.


anyhow to this date i have not seen a build number higher then 16..so MAzda may have only made 25 as the letter states !!! these things are rarer then i thought !!!!!!!!!
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IF anyone has Finale info please post it up !!!!!!
After a bit more research, I can finally add some more complete info on the mysterious Finale edition.

I have learnt from contacts within Mazda that throughout the time of 1st gen RX-7s, there were different companies responsible for vehicle delivery, marketing and sales in each state. Head office was in Melbourne and imported cars for Victoria (and probably Tasmania), while different companies imported cars into NSW/ACT, QLD, SA, WA etc. My contact had never heard of the Finale and I always found it curious that they only ever seemed to have come out of Sydney. There was no national sales promotion or brochure or road test or anything like that. Then there is the letter in the above post which is from Mazda (NSW) and only refers to 25 being sold in NSW. Then there is the fact it was available in yellow or red only, which seems kind of weird unless Mazda NSW managed secured a bunch of cars for delivery in 1986 (possibly at a discount due to the arrival of the new FC in late 1985) and these were the only colours available in Japan.

I am 95% confident that the Finale was a stickered run-out special promoted within NSW only and was not an official Mazda Australia special. My contact at Mazda believes this to be the case.

Anyway, thanks to Senna27 here are some much higher quality pictures of a Finale, build no. 7 which has managed to survive in very nice original condition. They show the various blackouts/decals etc and, like AD RX points out above, the build plates which do not say 1 of 150. This further confirms there were 25 and they were available in NSW/ACT only.

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#122 Post by KYPREO » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:36 pm

And the badge for Finale No. 2 originally owned by AD RX. Also on the door trim, indicating that's where it was originally.

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Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C / 1st Generation (1978 - 1985)

#123 Post by rotorhead15 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:05 pm

Is anyone able to shed some light on Series 2's and sunroofs? I'm in the market, and one I am looking at has a sunroof fitted but I've got no idea if its an original or aftermarket item? Has anyone got pictures of factory fitted ones for reference?



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#124 Post by KYPREO » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:42 am

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Is anyone able to shed some light on Series 2's and sunroofs? I'm in the market, and one I am looking at has a sunroof fitted but I've got no idea if its an original or aftermarket item? Has anyone got pictures of factory fitted ones for reference?
To my knowledge, they weren't available as an option in Australia. It was introduced as an option for the series 3 Limited (at additional cost).

Sunroof is not shown in the photos or listed as an option in the Australian brochure or the Wheels road test I have.

However, it was available on JDM and US models. The brochure for the US 1982 model is attached to this post and embedded below.

If yours has a sunroof it could be JDM, which would be indicated by chassis number SA22C-2xxxxx. Or, 3 other possibilities - it is early series 3 (which start in October 1983) or it has been converted. If it has been converted, it should be obvious from the roof trim, as it will likely be from a series 3. There are a couple of threads on here about people wanting to convert their series 2s, eg viewtopic.php?t=155822 and viewtopic.php?f=69&t=229219. You could buy whole series 3 sunroof roofs new from Mazda, so the conversion can be done - a lot harder now that parts are more scarce.

The 3rd possibility is that Mazda introduced it as an option for Australian models late in series 2. There are some 1983 model year series 2s that incorporated series 3 features, such as the electric fuel flap. Perhaps sunroof became an option then, but it wasn't listed in the brochures when the car first came out.

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Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C / 1st Generation (1978 - 1985)

#125 Post by rotorhead15 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:06 pm

Thanks Greg,
Its a mid 82 build I believe so I am going to guess its been fitted at some stage during the cars life. It makes me a little hesitant to purchase, it also seems to be missing the interior trim around the sunroof which Im guessing would be very hard to find!



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#126 Post by KYPREO » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:48 am

rotorhead15 wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:06 pm
Thanks Greg,
Its a mid 82 build I believe so I am going to guess its been fitted at some stage during the cars life. It makes me a little hesitant to purchase, it also seems to be missing the interior trim around the sunroof which Im guessing would be very hard to find!
I think I may have seen this on Facebook. White with glass moonroof? If so, it didn't look factory, certainly not the same size and location as a series 3 one, which might then explain the missing trim! Although the photos weren't clear, so I could be wrong. You'd definitely want to inspect in person. There were lots of companies that used to advertise sunroof conversions back in the day. I remember seeing ads for them in newspapers and magazines.

Personally, I prefer hardtops anyway. Looks, head clearance, one less spot to rust.


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Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C / 1st Generation (1978 - 1985)

#127 Post by rotorhead15 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:08 pm

KYPREO wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:48 am
rotorhead15 wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:06 pm
Thanks Greg,
Its a mid 82 build I believe so I am going to guess its been fitted at some stage during the cars life. It makes me a little hesitant to purchase, it also seems to be missing the interior trim around the sunroof which Im guessing would be very hard to find!
I think I may have seen this on Facebook. White with glass moonroof? If so, it didn't look factory, certainly not the same size and location as a series 3 one, which might then explain the missing trim! Although the photos weren't clear, so I could be wrong. You'd definitely want to inspect in person. There were lots of companies that used to advertise sunroof conversions back in the day. I remember seeing ads for them in newspapers and magazines.

Personally, I prefer hardtops anyway. Looks, head clearance, one less spot to rust.
I haven't seen the white one, its this one listed on Carsales https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/detail ... 4113/?Cr=6



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Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C / 1st Generation (1978 - 1985)

#128 Post by KYPREO » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:31 pm

For future reference purposes....

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That looks aftermarket to me - it's a lot smaller than a factory roof. Moon roof was available as a dealer option in the US, but manufactured by Mazda USA's official aftermarket supplier Finish Line, not Mazda Japan. A few people have imported the US ones, but not many. Factory looks like this:

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and from the outside so you can see how much bigger it is..


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Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C / 1st Generation (1978 - 1985)

#129 Post by Rx7fb spirit r » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:36 am

Greg its definitely a aftermarket moonroof very popular in 1980 in germany. For example blindex or webasto:
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Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C / 1st Generation (1978 - 1985)

#130 Post by green200b » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:43 pm

For future reference, here are some factory sunroof-related pictures taken from my brother's 1985 series 3 RX-7.
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