Forum announcement - 21 August 2018 - It is with great sadness to learn of the passing of a great of the AusRotary community, Darren Baker aka "Dazz". Since the very beginning, Dazz has been one of the giants of AusRotary, contributing his vast technical and model knowledge, as well as volunteering his time as a moderator. Right up to very recently he continued to provide race reports, results and photos of RX-2s from historic racing meets, even as his health made it very difficult to do so. Should you wish to add you own comments in honour of Dazz, please visit here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=250953

Mazda RX-7 SA22C / 1st Generation (1978 - 1985)

Summary information for rotary-powered vehicles.

Moderators: KillerRx4, orx626

Forum rules
Information in this forum is not guaranteed to be complete or correct. If you are able to provide additional information or corrections, please reply in the topic concerned or send a private message to the topic originator.
Message
Author
M4zda
Registered Rotor User
Posts: 21
Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:13 pm
Has liked: 0
Been liked: 0

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C (1978 - 1985)

#106 Post by M4zda » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:48 pm

Retro Racer wrote:You can email Mazda Australia and they'll tell that plus the dealers name/location when it was sold new.
Emailed Mazda no response, phoned them and was told their records don't go back that far...
..

Also contact rms nsw (it was first registered there) was told I need to go via freedom of information? not having much luck.



User avatar
Retro Racer
Get a Girlfriend
Posts: 2680
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:19 pm
Location: Sydney Inner West
Has liked: 0
Been liked: 1 time
Contact:

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C (1978 - 1985)

#107 Post by Retro Racer » Sun May 04, 2014 10:23 am

M4zda wrote:
Retro Racer wrote:You can email Mazda Australia and they'll tell that plus the dealers name/location when it was sold new.
Emailed Mazda no response, phoned them and was told their records don't go back that far...
..

Also contact rms nsw (it was first registered there) was told I need to go via freedom of information? not having much luck.
They might have purged their records after 30 years, as when I enquired about my S1 a fwe years ago it was 29 years old.



digbyj
Weekend Cruiser
Posts: 83
Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:23 pm
Has liked: 0
Been liked: 0

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C (1978 - 1985)

#108 Post by digbyj » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:16 am

Hi,
Can anyone help me answer below question, difference between deluxe and limited? It looks like the link to the answer may have been removed!
Thanks

AD RX wrote:
74gt wrote:
Retro Racer wrote: Sport $19,490
Delux $20,300
Limited $21,990
Finale $?????? only 150 made,unique black-outs outside of car, badge on pass door trim saying ...#/150 "last of the legends "
Whats the difference between the deluxe and limited s3?
here you go.


Image



User avatar
KYPREO
Administrator
Posts: 15353
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:09 am
Location: Melbourne
Has liked: 147 times
Been liked: 102 times
Contact:

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C (1978 - 1985)

#109 Post by KYPREO » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:56 am

I have updated the OP to fix the chassis numbers. The year by year breakdown was using US / LHD market chassis numbers using the JD1-FB33 chassis prefix. I have fixed with the correct SA22C Australia chassis numbers.

I have also retrieved the long lost Mazda model summary removed from their old website at least 10 years ago:

Image

I have all the 1st gen Australia model brochures which I will be scanning in high resolution and uploading to model reference section (on my to do list). These help clear up precisely the difference between the Sport, Deluxe and Limited grades for series 3.


My Build Log
WTB series 3 RX-7 shifter boot in off black/grey

User avatar
KYPREO
Administrator
Posts: 15353
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:09 am
Location: Melbourne
Has liked: 147 times
Been liked: 102 times
Contact:

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C (1978 - 1985)

#110 Post by KYPREO » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:40 am

While procrastinating this morning, I've gone through archive.org and managed to pull links to cached versions of every dead imageshack link in this thread and edit the original posts so that the images work properly again. This thread is now back to its former glory. You're welcome :P


My Build Log
WTB series 3 RX-7 shifter boot in off black/grey

User avatar
Retro Racer
Get a Girlfriend
Posts: 2680
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:19 pm
Location: Sydney Inner West
Has liked: 0
Been liked: 1 time
Contact:

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C (1978 - 1985)

#111 Post by Retro Racer » Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:23 pm

Well done :bow:



User avatar
Andy05
Boost Me Up
Posts: 604
Joined: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:28 pm
Has liked: 19 times
Been liked: 2 times

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C (1978 - 1985)

#112 Post by Andy05 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:05 am

Love your work KYPREO



User avatar
KYPREO
Administrator
Posts: 15353
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:09 am
Location: Melbourne
Has liked: 147 times
Been liked: 102 times
Contact:

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C (1978 - 1985)

#113 Post by KYPREO » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:27 am

Thanks guys. My pleasure.

To clarify the differenes between the different model series 3s:

Limited
Had all the electric features standard including ETR combo stereo with EQ and joystick fader (this was the same style stereo fitted to 1983 GSL models in the US and the 84-85 SE-Limited in Japan), plus front and rear amplifiers
Power antenna with auto-retract
14X5.5" alloys with the rising sun cutout motif
Chequered colour matched cloth interior trim in brown, off black or wine
Seats have adjustable headrest, with driver's side adjustable lumbar support
Leather-wrapped and stitched steering wheel
Sunroof optional
2tone paint optional

Deluxe
Same as Limited including same interior and alloy wheels, except:
* AM/FM tape deck radio with 4 speaker system (front external amp only)
* quartz digital clock in place of joystick fader
* no power windows
* no power mirrors
* no headlight washers ie has different front bumper skin
* no sunroof option (hardtop only)
* no 2tone paint option

Very few of these appear to have been sold, so much so that I don't think that I have actually seen one. I don't have any pictures of one.

Sport
Same as deluxe, except:
* kerb weight of 1070kg (25kg less than the Limited)
* rubber rear spoiler the same as fitted to European and JDM models
* no air conditioning
* no rear wiper/washer (s1 style glass hatch)
* basic plain black vinyl and cloth upholstery without colour matching, rest of interior plastics/vinyl in the off black scheme only
* series 1 style bucket seats with no driver's lumbar support
* no leather wrap on steering wheel - moulded urethane only
* no power antenna
* 14x5.5" steel wheels, not alloys
* LSD was available as an option (not for Limited or Deluxe)

Although air conditioning was not available, the only 2 series 3 Sports I've come across in person had air conditioning fitted by the dealer. I've got the full service books for one of these and the A/C was actually fitted after delivery. Pretty weird to have done that, when for only a little more than adding A/C they could have just got the Deluxe or the Limited.

Here's the specs page from my Mazda RX-7 Sports brochure. The brochure is black and white and doesn't have any photos of the actual car!
RX7 Sports specs.jpg
Here's the Sports style interior, which you'll see is a lot more Spartan with console pocket, digital clock and lots of blank switch panels. No leather on steering wheel. This belongs to a space yellow one owned by a bloke in Sydney. He brings it to lots of shows/cruises:
RX7 s3 Sport interior.jpg
Finally, (from page 1 of this thread) here are the 14" steel wheels originally fitted to the Sport - actually the same as fitted to base models in Japan as well. You can see the rubber rear spoiler too:

Image

It took a long for me to properly figure this out and post here but I've been wanting to clarify these model differences once and for all.

I will definitely post up my brochures some day. I tried scanning them but they were a weird paper size. The Sports one in particular is quite rare, so I feel it's important to share here for posterity.


My Build Log
WTB series 3 RX-7 shifter boot in off black/grey

User avatar
KYPREO
Administrator
Posts: 15353
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:09 am
Location: Melbourne
Has liked: 147 times
Been liked: 102 times
Contact:

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C (1978 - 1985)

#114 Post by KYPREO » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:57 am

Retro Racer wrote:
M4zda wrote:
Retro Racer wrote:You can email Mazda Australia and they'll tell that plus the dealers name/location when it was sold new.
Emailed Mazda no response, phoned them and was told their records don't go back that far...
..

Also contact rms nsw (it was first registered there) was told I need to go via freedom of information? not having much luck.
They might have purged their records after 30 years, as when I enquired about my S1 a fwe years ago it was 29 years old.
Another late reply, but I was able to get Mazda Australia to confirm the original dealer and sales date for my car earlier this year (2017), 32 years after the fact. They needed the chassis number only. I did manage to get through to the right person the first go. A friend of mine then checked his, but had to have a couple of attempts at it before getting to the right person who knew where to check.

Also, you can check the original engine number fitted to the car by contacting Mazda Japan. :wink:


My Build Log
WTB series 3 RX-7 shifter boot in off black/grey

User avatar
KYPREO
Administrator
Posts: 15353
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:09 am
Location: Melbourne
Has liked: 147 times
Been liked: 102 times
Contact:

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C / 1st Generation (1978 - 1985)

#115 Post by KYPREO » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:40 pm

I was just sent this. Restored series 1 Mirage like the Motor magazine cover shown on page 1 of this thread. It is being auctioned Lloyds. The NSW custom plate "RX7" is also on offer for $15,000.
Attachments
FB_IMG_1528194309730.jpg
FB_IMG_1528194313818.jpg
FB_IMG_1528194346335.jpg


My Build Log
WTB series 3 RX-7 shifter boot in off black/grey

User avatar
KYPREO
Administrator
Posts: 15353
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:09 am
Location: Melbourne
Has liked: 147 times
Been liked: 102 times
Contact:

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C / 1st Generation (1978 - 1985)

#116 Post by KYPREO » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:09 pm



It's actually modified. Tough sounding engine though.
These users liked KYPREO's post (total 2):
WANKfactor (Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:48 pm) • M10A (Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:35 pm)


My Build Log
WTB series 3 RX-7 shifter boot in off black/grey

User avatar
KYPREO
Administrator
Posts: 15353
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:09 am
Location: Melbourne
Has liked: 147 times
Been liked: 102 times
Contact:

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C / 1st Generation (1978 - 1985)

#117 Post by KYPREO » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:27 am

I have finally found evidence that the elusive series 3 Deluxe does exist! It is advertised on Carsales erroneously described as a Limited but as you can see it has manual windows and mirrors, no rear wiper and no front headlight washer jets - the holes are there indicating it had a front end bingle at some point but no actual washers. Unlike the Sport though it had factory AC, 14" alloy wheels, leather steering wheel and velour interior.
Attachments
FB_IMG_1529233214565.jpg
FB_IMG_1529233217354.jpg
FB_IMG_1529233220801.jpg
FB_IMG_1529233223967.jpg
FB_IMG_1529233211709.jpg
These users liked KYPREO's post:
baltsiotis (Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:54 pm)


My Build Log
WTB series 3 RX-7 shifter boot in off black/grey

User avatar
green200b
Rebuild Time
Posts: 1023
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:39 pm
Location: Blackbum, Victoria.
Has liked: 12 times
Been liked: 5 times

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C / 1st Generation (1978 - 1985)

#118 Post by green200b » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:51 am

Very interesting :-k

Do you happen to know if the series 2 Deluxe is a thing? My series 2 has factory air conditioning and was fitted with series 2 wheels when I got it, although it had obviously had wider wheels at some point as the guards had been rolled. The spare wheel was a 13 inch steel wheel, and it has manual windows, mirrors, no front or rear washers and no rear wiper. It has the vinyl interior also.


green200b, aka Alistair

1981 RX-7 Sport, 12A turbo - daily
1974 Capella RX-2, 13B - cruiser
1982 Hilux, 350 Chev - tow vehicle and 4WD
1980 Datsun 200B - sleeping

User avatar
KYPREO
Administrator
Posts: 15353
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:09 am
Location: Melbourne
Has liked: 147 times
Been liked: 102 times
Contact:

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C / 1st Generation (1978 - 1985)

#119 Post by KYPREO » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:49 am

AFAIK no, but there's so little information available on the models available. Even Redbook only lists the manual and auto variants for each series. This thread is pretty much the most complete set of information on Australian delivered 1st gens.

There are 2 brochures for Australian delivered series 3 - one for the Limited/Deluxe and one for the Sport, both of which I have, and they actually lists the different specs for the different models.

I have the series 1 brochure too, which only lists 1 model variant, but unfortunately I don't have the series 2 one. I need to track one down. The plan is to eventually upload high quality scans of them all here.

To my knowledge, there was the Super Deluxe Series 2 available in auto or manual and then there was a Sports model, and that is it. I always assumed yours was a Sport based on the specs. The only other one I had ever seen was RX7_BEN's here: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=247506&hilit=sport%2A - they both have the same idea as the series 3 Sports (no electrics, vinyl interior, rubber rear spoiler) so it seems right.

I have seen 2 series 3 Sports which were fitted with AC from new, even though it wasn't standard. All A/C was actually fitted and complied in Australia, so whether or not it was standard was more of a pricing issue. I actually have the owners manual and service books for a series 3 sport, showing the AC was installed around the time of the 1st service - owner probably realised they made a mistake!


My Build Log
WTB series 3 RX-7 shifter boot in off black/grey

User avatar
KYPREO
Administrator
Posts: 15353
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:09 am
Location: Melbourne
Has liked: 147 times
Been liked: 102 times
Contact:

Re: Mazda RX-7 SA22C / 1st Generation (1978 - 1985)

#120 Post by KYPREO » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:12 pm

I managed to locate full size copies of some of series 3 RX-7 road test scans on page 1 that were no longer available online. :bounce2: They are set out below, as well as linked from the thumbnails on page...

Modern Motor road test
Modern Motor - September 1984 - p 55.jpg
Modern Motor - September 1984 - p 54.jpg

Wheels Magazine road test
rx7 s3 road test 1.jpg
rx7 s3 road test 2.jpg


My Build Log
WTB series 3 RX-7 shifter boot in off black/grey

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post