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New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

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New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

#1 Post by Turblown1 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:11 am

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We are currently developing the Ultimate FD3S T4 EWG ( external waste-gate) Turbo Manifold. This Investment cast 347SS tapered T4 Twinscroll FD3S turbo manifold will soon supersede our proven welded version. Our welded version is proven to over 700rwhp, and hold boost pressure as low as 6 psi on road raced Rx7s. We are just waiting on the mold to be finished at the moment.

How is the new cast version different from our welded version?

347SS vs 304SS
Tapered Main Runner Inside Diameter ( 2" I.D tapering down to 1.687" at the T4 flange)
4x 1/8 NPT EGT or EMBP bungs standard
Every Flange is CNC Machined
Larger Inside Diameter Entrance Bore( 2" I.D.") t han traditional 1.5" schedule 10 welded turbo manifolds
Smoother transitions


Cast 347SS
This manifold is cast from 347SS which is far superior to 304SS. Not only does 347SS last longer at elevated temperatures , there are no welds like those found in traditional turbo manifolds. When a welded turbo manifolds fails, they almost always break at or next to the welds. A broken turbo manifold even if it features a life-time warranty can be a serious hassle to remove and send back in for repair, especially if you miss a race because of it. We have weighed our cast manifolds vs our welded units and they actually weigh a few ounces less! Since these manifolds are investment cast, they are less than 1/2 the thickness of your traditional cast iron turbo manifolds, and therefore do not retain as much heat as cast iron manifolds. There are zero downsides to this casting process vs welding. We have not had a single failure on our IWG cast manifolds.

Tapered Main Runner Inside Diameter
This manifold's inside diameter slowly tapers down as it reaches the T4 flange. This process is only possible with a cast manifold. A traditional welded manifold does not change inside diameter. This tapering process is identical to the volute of a turbine housing. By tapering down it increasing velocity, and speeds up the exhaust flow and increases boost response.

CNC machined flanges
All flanges are CNC machined to be perfectly flat. Most turbo manifolds are just belt sanded flat, which is not as accurate as CNC machining. The wastegate flanges typically leak slightly on a welded manifold, even if the face is belt sanded flat. The outside vband flange, and inner wastegate seat dimensions do not stay true because of the welding process.

Smoother transitions
Welded turbo manifolds require hours of hand porting with a die grinder, and sanding drums to contour the change in shape from a round tube to a square T4 flange. We have taken this step, just like the rest of the manifold, to an even higher level of quality. The investment casting process makes every transition seamless. Welded manifolds are made from short pieces of cast elbows. Every time there is a joint it is welded, there can be a slight disruption on the inside diameter if the pipe is not perfectly matched, or the weld penetrates all the way through. This disruption is eliminated with the casting process resulting in a better flowing turbo manifold.


Design and Fitment

This manifold has Proper Waste-Gate Placement for Proper Boost Control. Does your current turbo manifold overboost from poor wastegate placement? If so this unit is guaranteed to never boost creep! The entrances to the waste-gate runners are in the direct flow, and tear-dropped. The waste-gate runners are very short to disrupt the flow as little as possible. These manifolds are flanged for twin TurboSmart Comp40 waste-gates. Tial MVS units will also work.

This manifold fits both LHD, RHD, Stock LIM, Xcessive LIM, and most Vmount Inter-Cooler Systems. It will accommodate any size down-pipe up to 4". It also clears the Pineapple Racing Idler Pulley( Except for GT42, or S472/475- we recommend our EWP kit here) Air pump, Air Pump Bracket, and EGR require removal. Heat Core Hardline Requires relocation or replacement with flexible line. Fits most popular turbo sizes like Garrett, GT35R, GT40R, GT42R(T4) Precision 6262,6265,6266,6765,6766,7175( H cover only for 7175), Borg Warner( standard airwerks and SXE) S360, S362, S366, S472, S475, EFR EWG 7670, 8374 and 9180.


Install kit includes twin dump tubes, K&N air filter, heater core hardline, turbo cooling lines, oil drain block off plate, marmon downpipe clamp, 3" 2 bolt rear gasket/bolts/nuts, turbo manifold to turbo gaskets/bolts



http://www.turbosource.com/product-p...twinscroll.htm



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Re: New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

#2 Post by 2nd Gen 7 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:09 am

how does it go on RHD Elliot?



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Re: New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

#3 Post by Slides » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:55 pm

It lists RHD fitment in his post.

Really well thought out product.

Should probably be in vendors and prods section.



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Re: New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

#4 Post by Turblown1 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:36 am

Wax portion of the mold is finished. Getting closer :)

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Re: New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

#5 Post by Turblown1 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:01 pm

Samples out of casting prior to machining.
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Re: New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

#6 Post by 2nd Gen 7 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:12 pm

Need to update the link's above Elliot. Looks mint!



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Re: New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

#7 Post by Turblown1 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:46 am

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Re: New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

#8 Post by Turblown1 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:16 pm

Samples passed inspection. We've got one going on the Vic Time Attack FD with a T4 1.45 EFR 9180. Semi pport. Will hit the dyno early next month..
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Re: New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

#9 Post by Turblown1 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:34 am

Dyno testing went well, no issues on our end.

Car made 480rwhp @ 14psi on a break in tune, 10 AFR on E85




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Re: New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

#10 Post by Turblown1 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:01 pm

18.5 psi dyno runs
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Re: New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

#11 Post by pknoutrx2 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:32 pm

Hi Turblown
Certainly enough for a little Mazda👍Is it normal to have such waves in the graph from 6700 up? Is the car using a boost controller or springs, looks like an issue there maybe?
Manifold looks good anyway.



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Re: New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

#12 Post by Turblown1 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:31 am

Tires are spinning!



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#13 Post by pknoutrx2 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:59 am

Gotcha👍



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Re: New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

#14 Post by 2nd Gen 7 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:13 pm

Elliot, will Tial MV-R's fit? Im assuming not. I read only the MV-S will.



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Re: New Cast FD3S Twinscroll External Wastegate Manifold

#15 Post by Turblown1 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:34 pm

Turbosmart comp40 or Tial MVS only.

Turbosmart is releasing a new water cooled comp40 wastegate. Actually one of our samples is there in the AUS factory getting some photos taken with the new water cooled gates at the moment..



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